Comments on: The glaringly simple formula for rightwing dominance of our national debate http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/ Progressive politics Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The Right is ALWAYS Wrong http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-238 The Right is ALWAYS Wrong Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:32:52 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-238 Please stop with the Conservative Victim Mentality. It's pathetic. Please stop with the Conservative Victim Mentality. It’s pathetic.

]]> By: The Right is ALWAYS Wrong http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-237 The Right is ALWAYS Wrong Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:32:01 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-237 LOL, uh yeah right. The only reason women have the right to vote and drive cars in this country, people get trials (which you Repugs are eager to overthrow with your enemy combatant nonsense) and why people actually get a defense (Gideon v. Wainwright) is BECAUSE OF PROGRESSIVES. Every step of the way, you useless wastes called Conservatives fought against these rational things, howled and claimed it was Anti American for these things to occur. Then decades later, you try to twist logic into such ridiculous contortions so you can try to take credit for them. Your ideological forefathers were against them. Your philosophy is nothing but a cancer in need of excision. LOL, uh yeah right. The only reason women have the right to vote and drive cars in this country, people get trials (which you Repugs are eager to overthrow with your enemy combatant nonsense) and why people actually get a defense (Gideon v. Wainwright) is BECAUSE OF PROGRESSIVES. Every step of the way, you useless wastes called Conservatives fought against these rational things, howled and claimed it was Anti American for these things to occur. Then decades later, you try to twist logic into such ridiculous contortions so you can try to take credit for them. Your ideological forefathers were against them. Your philosophy is nothing but a cancer in need of excision.

]]> By: PeterP http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-91 PeterP Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:14:24 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-91 Exactly. This is why, when you ask a liberal direct questions, it is so freaking hard to get a direct response. The true desires for policy which will be massively unpopular cannot be spoken. This is why they need to redefine words and then use them hoping the emotional impact of the former meaning will carry the day and no one will look at the details of how they are using the word. One such word is 'justice', as in 'social'. It's 'justice' to steal a person's property and hand it to someone else? it's 'justice' to have the State in charge of legal racial discrimination? Exactly. This is why, when you ask a liberal direct questions, it is so freaking hard to get a direct response. The true desires for policy which will be massively unpopular cannot be spoken. This is why they need to redefine words and then use them hoping the emotional impact of the former meaning will carry the day and no one will look at the details of how they are using the word.

One such word is ‘justice’, as in ‘social’.

It’s ‘justice’ to steal a person’s property and hand it to someone else? it’s ‘justice’ to have the State in charge of legal racial discrimination?

]]> By: Christopher Taylor http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-90 Christopher Taylor Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:02:20 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-90 Uh, so its crazy right wingers who are the bad guys in this story, somehow? Uh, so its crazy right wingers who are the bad guys in this story, somehow?

]]> By: Les Hardie http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-73 Les Hardie Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:46:54 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-73 How you can stand to live in this evil fascist country is beyond me. What a nightmare the USA is! Think of the terrible things we do: We let women drive cars (unlikeSaudi Arabia). We let them work( and go to school (unlike Afghanistan). We don't let anyone starve (unlikeNoKo). Everybody accused of a crime gets a trial( unlike most of the rest of the world) and the right to a real defense(ditto) from judges who aren't gov't stooges (ditto). We let people write stupid and inane political commentary like yours and don't arrest them (ditto). We have elections (ditto) and candidates aren't regularly murdered(ditto) by the ruling party, and if the opponents win, they actually take control(ditto). The government can't break down your door and arrest you on trumped-up charges, at least not yet while the Constitution still has life in it, which you progressives would like to ignore on your march to "true social justice". Didn't you folks learn anything from 70 years of communism, fascism, and peoples' revolutions? Utopia can only be brought about by repression and murder; by a police state where nobody has any rights---except the ruling class, which all you progressives fancy yourselves to be in. Utopias are totalitarian by their nature, but you progressives can't see it. That's why your progressive "philosophy" will always end up in the dustbin of history. Progressive my ass---you believe in an old, discredited, defeated 20th century political ideology that is so out of date! So un-cool! How you can stand to live in this evil fascist country is beyond me. What a nightmare the USA is! Think of the terrible things we do: We let women drive cars (unlikeSaudi Arabia). We let them work( and go to school (unlike Afghanistan). We don’t let anyone starve (unlikeNoKo). Everybody accused of a crime gets a trial( unlike most of the rest of the world) and the right to a real defense(ditto) from judges who aren’t gov’t stooges (ditto). We let people write stupid and inane political commentary like yours and don’t arrest them (ditto). We have elections (ditto) and candidates aren’t regularly murdered(ditto) by the ruling party, and if the opponents win, they actually take control(ditto). The government can’t break down your door and arrest you on trumped-up charges, at least not yet while the Constitution still has life in it, which you progressives would like to ignore on your march to “true social justice”. Didn’t you folks learn anything from 70 years of communism, fascism, and peoples’ revolutions? Utopia can only be brought about by repression and murder; by a police state where nobody has any rights—except the ruling class, which all you progressives fancy yourselves to be in. Utopias are totalitarian by their nature, but you progressives can’t see it. That’s why your progressive “philosophy” will always end up in the dustbin of history. Progressive my ass—you believe in an old, discredited, defeated 20th century political ideology that is so out of date! So un-cool!

]]> By: dan-o http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-72 dan-o Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:46:53 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-72 Guys, wake up! The reason conservatives are able to shift the debate to the right is because the USA is a center-right nation, and we always have been. It is far easier to push the country in a direction it already wants to go, than to pull it somewhere it doesn't. The left will be pissing up a rope till the end of time trying to move the country left because, on the whole, we're not buying what they've been selling. When Obama drops all the left wing ideas you guys love so much, his doing so is a tacit admission that when it comes time to implement policy, the left wing agenda is a loser. Guys, wake up! The reason conservatives are able to shift the debate to the right is because the USA is a center-right nation, and we always have been. It is far easier to push the country in a direction it already wants to go, than to pull it somewhere it doesn’t. The left will be pissing up a rope till the end of time trying to move the country left because, on the whole, we’re not buying what they’ve been selling. When Obama drops all the left wing ideas you guys love so much, his doing so is a tacit admission that when it comes time to implement policy, the left wing agenda is a loser.

]]> By: Surellin http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-69 Surellin Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:18:23 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-69 I distincly remember calls for the ouster of Rumsfeld and Rove back in the day. Were those calls extreme, too? Let's face it - playing defense is harder than playing offense, and the side in power is always playing defense. And btw, "climate denial" is reality-based. I distincly remember calls for the ouster of Rumsfeld and Rove back in the day. Were those calls extreme, too? Let’s face it – playing defense is harder than playing offense, and the side in power is always playing defense.
And btw, “climate denial” is reality-based.

]]> By: Servius http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-68 Servius Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:03:50 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-68 Yeah, That's why we keep sliding into this left wing cesspool. Yeah, That’s why we keep sliding into this left wing cesspool.

]]> By: Dennis Byron http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-54 Dennis Byron Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:24:05 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-54 Interesting theory, and it is proven propaganda theory so you are right. But "looting of the poor by the ultra-rich?" Like Buffet and Gates are doing? "Undo executive power excesses?" This administration is simply perfecting them (by not going to the trouble of or getting the exposure of signing letters). Stop needless war? Didn't the president (and Kerry in 2004) make it very clear in the campaign that Afghanistan was a needed war. But good column anyways. Interesting theory, and it is proven propaganda theory so you are right. But “looting of the poor by the ultra-rich?” Like Buffet and Gates are doing? “Undo executive power excesses?” This administration is simply perfecting them (by not going to the trouble of or getting the exposure of signing letters). Stop needless war? Didn’t the president (and Kerry in 2004) make it very clear in the campaign that Afghanistan was a needed war. But good column anyways.

]]> By: forward opertaing base http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/the-glaringly-simple-formula-for-rightwing-dominance-of-our-national-debate/#comment-50 forward opertaing base Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:09:16 +0000 http://peterdaou.com/?p=267#comment-50 Did [ americans ] really think Obama was going to establish a single payer health care system, bring all Bush warmongers to justice, stop the looting of the poor by the ultra-rich, revitalize the environmental movement, undo Bush-Cheney’s executive power excesses, bring about true social justice and stop needless wars? well, that is exactly what this American was thinking / wishing & hoping for. and if i were president, that would have all been accomplished on Day One, starting at 12:02 pm on Inauguration Day. Did [ americans ] really think Obama was going to establish a single payer health care system, bring all Bush warmongers to justice, stop the looting of the poor by the ultra-rich, revitalize the environmental movement, undo Bush-Cheney’s executive power excesses, bring about true social justice and stop needless wars?

well, that is exactly what this American was thinking / wishing & hoping for.

and if i were president, that would have all been accomplished on Day One, starting at 12:02 pm on Inauguration Day.

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